Show: Training Data · Publisher: Sequoia Capital · Host: Sonya Huang, Pat Grady
Episode URL: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/CPUAI7976674176.mp3
Publish date: 2025-12-02
Duration: NAs
Default source credibility: HIGH — Sequoia partners interview frontier-lab founders + F500 AI buyers. VC-hosted — portfolio-company framing on recommendations; named guest metrics stay HIGH. Peer-tier to No Priors in quality.
- Nathan Sobo argues that IDEs won’t die due to AI coding tools, emphasizing the importance of visual interfaces for understanding code.
- Zed, an IDE built for performance and collaboration, integrates AI agents to enhance coding efficiency, with a user base of over 150,000 active developers.
- Sobo discusses the limitations of LLMs in complex software development tasks, noting that while they excel in generating known code, they struggle with novel problem-solving.
Extracted quotes
| # | Credibility | Speaker | Org | Timestamp | Topic | Quote |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | HIGH | Nathan Sobo (Founder) | Zed | 02:14 | 02-corporate-tools | I think those takes are not realistic. It is mind blowing that you can sit down at a terminal and speak English with a script talking to an LLM and make real progress on a code base, but if you believe that the IDE is going to die, then I think that requires you to believe that human beings are not going to need to interact with source code anymore. |
| 2 | HIGH | Nathan Sobo (Founder) | Zed | 02:02 | 02-corporate-tools | I’ve spent my entire life grinding toward building the ultimate tool for this. And is it not going to matter? Are these people right? But after mulling it over seriously, because I definitely don’t want to be gold plating a buggy whip, I think those takes are not realistic. |
| 3 | HIGH | Nathan Sobo (Founder) | Zed | 23:09 | 02-corporate-tools | About half of the people using Zed are using our edit prediction capability, which is, you know, I’m coding along and it suggests the next thing. And about a quarter of our active users are using agentic editing in some shape or form. |
Per-quote detail
1. Nathan Sobo — Zed (02:14)
I think those takes are not realistic. It is mind blowing that you can sit down at a terminal and speak English with a script talking to an LLM and make real progress on a code base, but if you believe that the IDE is going to die, then I think that requires you to believe that human beings are not going to need to interact with source code anymore.
- Credibility: HIGH — Named founder with specific claim about IDEs and source code interaction.
- Topic tag:
02-corporate-tools
2. Nathan Sobo — Zed (02:02)
I’ve spent my entire life grinding toward building the ultimate tool for this. And is it not going to matter? Are these people right? But after mulling it over seriously, because I definitely don’t want to be gold plating a buggy whip, I think those takes are not realistic.
- Credibility: HIGH — Named founder with specific claim about IDEs and source code interaction.
- Topic tag:
02-corporate-tools
3. Nathan Sobo — Zed (23:09)
About half of the people using Zed are using our edit prediction capability, which is, you know, I’m coding along and it suggests the next thing. And about a quarter of our active users are using agentic editing in some shape or form.
- Stat: Half of Zed users use edit prediction, and a quarter use agentic editing.
- Credibility: HIGH — Named founder with specific metric about Zed’s user adoption of AI features.
- Topic tag:
02-corporate-tools
Extracted 2026-04-14T17:50:18 via scripts/podcast_mine.py (MLX mlx-community/Qwen2.5-32B-Instruct-4bit).